Whiting fishing is always at its best with a fair bit of current flow. Added to that they are using baits like frozen prawns and squid, or fishing with line as thick as whipper snipper cord and with enough lead to sink a small ship! Given the small window with the tides, it is best to have scoped these spots out beforehand so you know how far you have to travel between gutters. When it comes to rods, it’s best to use one with a soft, limber tip. The best time to target whiting is when high water falls just after darkness. My favourite whiting fishing weather is 5-10 knot south to southeasterlies or 5-10 knot south to southwesterlies. Fish species: Squid, King George whiting, Australian salmon, silver trevally, yellow-eye mullet, flathead, snapper Saltwater nippers catch the biggest Whiting. The edges of weed beds, sand and mud banks are perfect locations. Try to fish the Big tide Tides For Whiting in winter and summer the image below show’s the different stages in the Tides. The best time to take advantage of a falling tide is two hours before low tide. Falling Tide Because water is in movement when a tide is changing, these times are the best times to fish. Pipis can be caught under your feet on the beach and are great whiting bait. For example, if sundown is say 7pm the best tide to look for is one that peaks before midnight. The bottom half of the run in tide, up to about the 4 th hour of the run in, is the premium time to fish for Whiting off the beach. As the tide recedes the baitfish flee for deeper water and you can bet those predators will be ready and waiting. So there you have it. Low tide shallow gutters (see diagram D) are some of the least fished on the beach, but can turn on some of the best whiting action of the lot. Long light, whippy rods are perfect for whiting. While still technically defined as ‘the beach’, beach corners are another brilliant location for whiting. Keep the rig simple. For the South Aussie Anglers there’s a King George over 50cm shaping for a fight. How to read a Tide Chart with Diagram Best Time to Fish for Whiting Fishing Port Phillip bay. Fishing Report: Whiting at high tide. Be cautious of being too brand loyal. Low tide whiting. This outfit is primarily for the beach. Line                                  thin diameter 6lb mono (e.g. Rising tides give foraging fish such as whiting and bream access to yabby banks and oyster racks in estuaries, which might otherwise be exposed on low tide. Generally, I find that if the water is glassy or flat the fish get a bit wary and prefer a moving bait, so I drift or cast and retrieve at anchor in these conditions. This provides cover for the whiting. Type of fishing: Jetty Expect to find: Flathead, Whiting, Bream Best Time to go: Early morning Horizon Plate is a new line-up from Horizon Aluminium Boats, sister brand to Stessl, which is built in […]. Finding the whiting Deeper gutters and channels where the water first floods up onto the bank or sand flat when the tide is rising. These fast-flowing rivers tend to have high banks, or man-made canals which means the water shelves away quickly, and being fairly narrow with a big funnel at the entrance, it means much more tidal run. Use a long shank hook, size 4 to 8 and always go for the top brands. When the pompano and whiting are holding on the outer sand bars during the least 3 hours of the outgoing tide you can catch a ton of fish. If you miss a strike, try feeding some line back out to the fish with the rod still in the holder. Generally casts to spot A should be left to wash around just beyond the break, while for spot B you can try and cast and retrieve the bait over the edge, or let it sit around the edge of the drop off. Simple is always the first option but a variation might be a paternoster rig for drifting or twin hooks on twin leaders for double hook-ups when casting into schools. Whiting truly are for everyone. I always drive the boat around in a wide arc when I go back to the start of my first mark though so as not to spook the fish by driving over the top of them. The second set is breaking on a sand bar (the sandbar moves in and off shore slowly because of currents and tides over days/weeks). Light wave action is perfect. Think about the stage of the tide as well. Fish that drop back into tidal creeks that still hold water at very low tides will often congregate in holes. The best Whiting Fishing Rig – Rigs and terminal tackle. Platypus Super 100) with 6lb fluorocarbon trace. Check the links below, stock up on your Whiting kit, bag out, and then feed the family with some of the most amazing tasting fish the ocean has to offer. Sand Whiting can be found as far South as just below the Victoria NSW boarder. The only time I find these plastics don’t work is when the water is glassed out and their little legs or feelers aren’t moving as your drift slows right down. Added to that, the smaller pieces of tubing tend to slide up and down the trace making your bait stand out that bit more. The rock wall has the benefit of extending out into deep water. Beach corners are areas where the sand meets either rocky headlands or large rocky outcrops that protrude into the water. What’s great about crabbing is that if you put some pots […], by Sean Thompson • Our 19th annual tour to Fraser Island in search of tailor left us thinking about what we could do differently the following year. Due to the huge difference in depth and tide for whiting over both waterways, the Wilson Texalium RLFTX32 2-4kg allows anglers to fish light sinkers in the shallows but can handle up to 8oz sinkers in the deep so you can get away with having just one rod for all whiting scenarios. Tide is important. I have three favourite types of beach gutters I prefer to fish at or around high tide. Generally there is a permanent gutter carved out at such spots. A falling tide occurs when a tide changes from high tide to low tide and is the best time of the day to fish. A 10 to 12 foot full graphite spin rod, lightweight, suitable for a spin reel 3000 to 5000. Again, the tip should be sensitive but strong enough to handle the rigors of more powerful casting. For this reason, they are a great fish to target to get kids or newcomers into fishing. It’s a lot better than casting with light line, only to hear your line snap under the pressure of the cast. Using live baits however, is the key to getting big Whiting. Big beach worms like this produce plenty of baits that beach whiting find hard to resist. A sensitive tip can make all the difference when hunting Whiting. The King George Whiting is fond of the cooler waters. formation of the drains/gutters are more important i belive then tide times, but if i had to make a choice it would have to be on the low tide as the gutter banks are easiest to fish at this time. Whiting will take soft plastics, including grubs and fish tails. King George Whiting are very fond of fresh squid flesh. So that’s it. The key feature of the rod is a sensitive tip. These are natural feeding areas for fish as are points or other structure that may divert the tides or currents along the beach. Check the … With the right conditions (light swell), low tide concentrates the whiting in the deep water closest to the pipis and worms at the shore or along the back bank. The fact that so many casual anglers consider beach fishing unproductive probably comes down to where and how they fish. A leader length just over a meter is generally advisable for best action and casting balance. I find these spots can fish very well at dawn and dusk regardless of the tide due to the structure provided for the fish, as well as the lower light conditions. Whiting tend to be concentrated where the … That’s exactly what Gold Coast boat builder, Stessl […], by Steve Morgan •At Fishing Monthly, we like getting the first look at new ranges of boats. 1) Get to the fishing location at low tide 2) Pump yabbies or worm (I didn't do the worming) and put them in a bucket of salt water 3) As the tide comes up, the whiting move up onto the sand flats to chase the yabbies, so we put our very lightly weighted (if at all - depending on depth) yabbies with the hooks in front of them I like fishing a big run in tide for whiting but whiting can be caught on both tides. Winds and swell can play a big part on your success on the beach. Fish the tides The more productive times are the first half of the run-in and the second half of the run out tides. Avoid striking heavily when a Whiting bite, it’s easy to pull hooks, particularly if you’re fishing with braid. You have the choice of fishing from the concrete walkways or rock entrance walls. Well, this video tutorial below will show you the #1 factor to keep in mind when planning your next fishing trip. Let’s revisit this old chestnut in some detail. When these winds tie in with a rising tide at about 10am and overcast conditions, if I can locate the fish, I will clean up. Whiting will often hook themselves if you set your rods low to the water to offer minimal resistance. Baitfish and prawns hide in the thick of the mangroves on a high tide while predators cruise the periphery looking for a feed. For outfit 1, spool up with mono to 6 pound if you’re casting flesh and live baits. When fishing for whiting it is best to look for areas that have two sets of breaking waves. After you have worked spot A with a series of casts or let the bait sit for 5 minutes or so, you should move and cast to the back bank (spot B). As noted in the diagram, you also need a heavier ball sinker (4-5 ball) to hold your rig in place during the middle stages of the tide. If you have to beat the wind and hold the bottom, weight is the only answer. High tide is the best time for bream, whiting and flathead. This means, once you find a school you can have a lot of fun and catch a nice bag for a feed. Adding pauses to the retrieve is often very effective and erratic retrieves, often a default when experimenting, can entice plenty of interest. By doing this you can do a search of your waypoints for the species you are after, then find either a recent month, or the same month from a previous year. 6. Beach photos of the surf, birds, and any fish you catch will preserve the memories of your winter whiting fishing trip. Yabbies are a first-class whiting bait, but make sure you fish over where you pumped them at high tide. Structure is critical, not the man made pylons and racks that attract Bream, but the holes, hollows, drop offs and subtle undulations of the sea bed. This ‘fast run’ will stir up plenty of bait and provide the fish with access to areas such as holes and drains that they can hold up and feed. At this point in time, the fish will generally go off the bite. It has launched the angling careers of many a 3 year old. Whiting reside in the salt water inshore grounds and are prolific on our beaches. It is possible the fish are right up near the shoreline, so your first casts should be with you standing more than a rod length away from the water’s edge. We’ll look at Whiting fishing rigs, Whiting locations, the best lures for targeting Whiting, great Whiting kit and some good old Whiting fishing tips. It’s found as far north as southern NSW, all the way around the bite up to just south of Geraldton on the Western Australian coast. By far and away my favourite technique bait fishing the flats is the cast and retrieve method with a small Alvey reel and light rod. Casting lures at Whiting is still not widely practiced but there is an ever increasing band of Whiting anglers spreading the word and preaching about its effectiveness. The areas you want to be looking for are large sandbanks or estuary flats that end up with a decent flow of water over them during the middle stages of the tide. Strap on a spin reel to balance, size 1000 to 2500. Fish the back of the gutter on an incoming tide. I often read in fishing books and magazines that the last two hours of the rising tide and the first hour of the falling tide is the best time to fish for whiting off the beach. As the tides increases, the whiting will follow the drains in for the first few hours of the tide, before they disperse to the shallows for more access to the bait when the flats are well and truly covered. I learnt these techniques from reading and going out fishing with local experts such as Wayne. The Whiting most Australians are familiar with are the Sand Whiting and the famous King George Whiting. All too often I see inexperienced anglers or families fishing the beach directly in front of the track to the beach. Mark spots where you are catching a number of fish, and then rename a mark in the middle of the fish with the species and date. Throughout this article I will refer to fishing rods and reels and assorted kit that are perfect for Whiting. By getting down wind, and using a good pair of Polaroid sunglasses, it is usually pretty easy to spot the schools of fish moving up on the flats. The action of the lure you are trying to achieve is either a triangular side-to-side ‘walk-the-dog” pattern with stickbaits like Bassday Sugapens, or a ‘bloop-bloop’ approach with poppers (dispersing water at the front of the cupped face of the lure). An incoming tide, or rising tide, is considered to be one of the best fishing tide times. This is certainly the case for rivers such as the Nerang on Queensland’s Gold Coast. The best time to fish for whiting is usually with a rising tide although the fish will bite right through the day. The trick is to use a 7-7”6 high modulus graphite rod and undertake a constant wind of a 1000-2000 size reel. In fact, with an Alvey reel you can actually wind backwards on your reel to give the fish line at the first indication of a bite and therefore less resistance when they pick the bait up and run. Then as the whiting go off to the bite, move further up the estuary as the fish will be chasing the tide as it gives access to new banks. Targeting tailor with new techniques, methods or lures […], by Steve Morgan •We love head-to-head boat tests at Fishing Monthly and we’ve done several over the years. ‘Winteries’ tend to prefer a mix of silty and muddy bottoms. Due to the huge difference in depth and tide for whiting over both waterways, the Wilson Texalium RLFTX32 2-4kg allows anglers to fish light sinkers in the shallows but can handle up to 8oz sinkers in the deep so you can get away with having just one rod for all whiting scenarios. Fish the back of the gutter on an incoming tide. A 7 foot full graphite spin rod, lightweight, rated 2 to 4kg. The only other ingredient you need is some slightly deeper water where the beach meets the rocks. Most general purpose rods are a little less sensitive in the tip. Don’t feel too nervous about upping your mono rating. I hope it helps you to catch a few more of this very popular species. Learn how to identify and catch them in this article. In my mind, beach fishing is one of the most underrated yet productive ways to catch a feed of legal size fish. Rods, Hooks & Weights. While estuaries tend to hold bigger whiting, some thumpers still can turn up on the beach. If you decide to drift and find a concentration of whiting, you can anchor up current from them and cast your baits back to the school. Whiting often love moving baits, so this means you want to cast your line out and slowly retrieve it back to you, with a slow constant wind of the reel. Wondering what the absolute best tides for redfish, snook, and trout are for the flats, creeks, and bays? Catching whiting while wading the flats is one of life’s simple pleasures. The long rods serve two purposes; they allow you to better cast and manage the very long traces and are long and whippy to absorb the bite and lunge of the fish when they swallow and run off with the bait. The stakes allow you to fish another rod while you hold your primary rod in your hands. As whiting feed they bury their nose, almost up to their eyes, as they pull worms, crabs or yabbies from the bottom, leaving a divot as they pull back and continue their forage. A good way to find sand banks that hold whiting is to walk a sand flat at low tide and look for small divots in the sand. Rod                                   As above although shorter light rods in 7”-9”, Reel                                  Alvey reels or 1000-2000 size spinning reels can be used from boats or riverbanks, Linw                                  6lb line and leader, Rod                                   Long 10”6 rods at anchor from the box and stern, 7”-9” light whippy rods from the sides, Reel                                  Alvey reels and 1000-2000 size spinning reels, Line                                  6lb line and leader, Rod                                   7”-9” light rods with whippy tips, Beach                              Live beach worms, sliced pipis and yabbies in calm gutters, Estuary flats                 Yabbies, live mud, wriggler or squirt worms, beach worms on western side of sand islands, Fast rivers                     Live mangrove or blood worms, jelly prawns, yabbies, Bay winter whiting       Red dyed frozen worms (less expensive than live worms and work), yabbies and Gulp 2” sandworm soft plastics on no. on Jeanneau Merry Fisher Marlin 605 and 695, on Stessl Funseeker Bowrider 6.3 with Yamaha F200, on Horizon 525 SunRunner with Mercury 115hp ProXS, Stessl Funseeker Bowrider 6.3 with Yamaha F200, Horizon 525 SunRunner with Mercury 115hp ProXS. Whiting congregate in the summer for spawning, hence the term ‘Summer Whiting’. In terms of technique, cast your bait out into the gutter (not too close to the rocks that it becomes snagged), and commence a slow retrieve. Despite their name, winter whiting can be caught throughout the year in their usual locations, such as the big bays and straits of South East Queensland. The second is, as light as conditions allow. If you intend to bait fish for whiting you need to plan your bait collecting prior to fishing and in general a session starts with bait collecting on the bottom of the tide and then you fish this bait on the run in tide as the water pushes up over the flats. What is great about these fish, is they are a little less finicky (so will take more of a variety of baits) than the summer whiting and tend to gather in larger schools. As the tide falls further, the best place to anchor is a little further back in the channel, so you are casting to where the sand bank drops into deeper water. (5) Camera in a large Zip-Loc bag. By far the peak period for these types of formations is one hour before to one hour after low tide. Whiting live in the shallows and will forage the sea bed in waters a few inches to 6 meters deep (up to 12 meters for King George), they’re looking for worms, yabbies, pipis and other invertebrates uncovered by wave and current action. I had live sand worms and was catching good fish. A general purpose 7-8 foot rod and 3000 reel combination will see you covered for most Whiting scenarios, a hand-line will suffice for that matter, they’re not a complicated fish. The first set will break near the beach and the second a little further off shore. The bottom half of the run in tide, up to about the 4 th hour of the run in, is the premium time to fish for Whiting off the beach. The best Whiting Fishing Rig – Rods and Reels. They are perfect for baiting live worms, yabbies and pipis and the long shank is easier to remove from the long snout of a Whiting. The sand banks you are looking for have soft, sandy bottoms, which means the pressure of the river flow will scour out undulations on them. Whiting put up a fight that defies their diminutive size. The other reason I like these types of gutters is that even in a slightly larger swell the fish get some respite from the choppy surf on the shallow sand spit. It takes about 6 hours for the tide to go from low to high and 6 hours from high to low. You can also cast another rod to the edge of the drop off and work out where the fish are. Added to that is the fact the sand spit usually holds their favourite menu of pipis and beach worms. Casting soft plastics and metal lures that resemble bait fish can also be productive. As the tide rises, you can anchor at the drop off and cast your baits up over the shallows (as far from the boat as possible) where the whiting will be feeding. They will also take small bait fish. Tide tables and solunar charts for Gravelly Point (Whiting Bay): high tides and low tides, surf reports, sun and moon rising and setting times, lunar phase, fish activity and weather conditions in Gravelly Point (Whiting … This can be true in the right gutters and conditions, but be assured that in certain circumstances the opposite applies, and the best time is the hour or so either side of the low tide. The channel markers are a giveaway on these locations and are a good place to start. That is, ‘Winter whiting June 18’. “If God told me that I was only allowed to chase three fish species for the rest of my fishing days, Whiting would definitely be in that three.”. Many of the areas mentioned above are excellent target locations for whiting, except with a boat you have the advantage of not only being able to move quickly between spots, but also fish from the deeper side of sandbanks. To deal with fast flowing current you want to use two anchors, one at the strern and one at the bow to prevent the boat from moving around. That is, fish closer to the entrance of the estuary as the tide begins to push in giving the whiting access to new banks. So in this case, a cast up onto the sandbank and slowly retrieved into the gutter just after the wave has broken and spread its foam over the gutter is the way to go. I like fishing a big run in tide for whiting but whiting can be caught on both tides. As the tide begins to rise, and water flows over the saltwater flats, fish begin to patrol these areas in search of food. Plus, you'll learn about the 2 … Whiting (fish) are one of the most abundant, popular and tasty fish caught while surf fishing. Feel free to up that to 15 but keep in mind lighter is usually best, depending on conditions. I often read in fishing books and magazines that the last two hours of the rising tide and the first hour of the falling tide is the best time to fish for whiting off the beach. You will always find the bite slows for half an hour to an hour around the change of the tide period, so be sure to focus your efforts on the rising and falling tides. As the tide rises, the fish spread out with access to more water or disperse to cleaner, calmer water if the swell and water movement becomes too turbulent. As this is so close to the shore, do not walk right down to or even in the water before you cast. Why hold on to a 12 footer if it’s just not necessary. Fishing for a few hours either side of high tide is best. In all three cases, I am looking for nice clean water with a bit of white wash. The next most important tip is if you get a bite on your rod, don’t touch it! Manly Boat Harbour Rock Wall. You will often find the whiting start biting just as the tide starts to move, as it starts going out they feed, or as it starts coming in, sometimes they will feed on the way to the top/bottom of the tide, hence why we start two … Rods, Hooks & Weights. When the tide falls, the fish retreat to the deeper water of the channels and drop offs. Another good place to try is the edge of the sandbanks in the river where the sandbank meets the channel. In the North, their distribution reaches the tip of Cape York. This combo will also be useful for fishing wider rivers, where the drop off is some distance from a gently sloping river bank. Some of the best fishing times occur during a strong incoming tide since the current will be bringing baitfish, crustaceans and other prey in towards land. Some of those species are also regularly caught on lures. When fishing the beach, if the tide is receding, fish the front of the gutter. The reason I say this is because whiting do tend to wait until darkness before they will venture really close inshore. While Whiting can be caught some distance up river, the start of the brackish will generally put the brakes on the Whiting bite. There’s a 40 cm plus Whiting out there with your name on it. Fishing the run-out tide seems to be the best, although quite a few good whiting sessions have occurred during the run-in. This article aims to provide you with the keys to unlock the ‘whiting code’ in four main types of whiting locations across South East Queensland and New South Wales. When conditions allow, a 12/20lb-class boat rod is perfect for whiting fishing. Fishing the run-out tide seems to be the best, although quite a few good whiting sessions have occurred during the run-in. Re: Best tide / time for whiting Jeff, i target big whiting both day and night. Once during a beach session, I fished the same gutter, using, more or less, the same rig as a much older guy standing next to me. Rod                                   Light 10’6 2-4kg with a whippy tip, Reel                                  Alvey reels in the 50-55 series. Without a doubt the best baits for Whiting are live blood and sand worms, yabbies otherwise known as saltwater nippers and pipis. Another thing great about these fish is they will also take frozen baits such as red-dyed worms and you can also catch a bigger class of fish on artificial baits such as the Berkley Gulp Sandworm. The target zone would commence at the Victorian NSW boarder, Stretch to Port Phillip, the recommence in on the South Australian coast where King George Whiting can grow beyond 50cm. A larger swivel is also recommended for outfit 3. Before and after shots of a gutter with a back bank that filled nicely at high tide to produce a dozen fish to 40cm. When casting lures choose braid 2 to 6 pounds. A leader to 6 pound is ideal. When these winds tie in with a rising tide at about 10am and overcast conditions, if I can locate the fish, I will clean up. How to read a Tide Chart with Diagram Best Time to Fish for Whiting Fishing Port Phillip bay. With Live baits quality fish in big numbers are possible throughout the day. My favourite whiting fishing weather is 5-10 knot south to southeasterlies or 5-10 knot south to southwesterlies. This epic jetty in The Shire easily ranks among the best fishing spots in Sydney. Very light braid of 2-4lb and 4lb monofilament (not fluorocarbon) leader is recommended for topwater lures to ensure the leader isn’t sinking and thus dragging the lure under the water. Keep the bait below the sinker. As the push of a run in tide begins, the whiting start to move up onto the flats. They certainly get about, but target zones, i.e. Furthermore, during most winters some of the smaller fish (under 25cm) also enter the mouths of rivers and creeks. Trolling small lures will also pick up whiting at times in estuaries. See the rigs diagram hereabouts. The bottom end of Western Australia, Albany to Mandurah is also a target Zone. Otherwise, if the fish are more spread I will drift and GPS the spots I catch fish from. It is also found at the top of Tasmania. If a headland is encountered along the beach, try fishing along the edge where the beach meets the rocks. You can spot these areas in 2-3m of water even without a sounder by the lumpy ripple effect on the water surface as the tide and a gentle breeze pushes in. There are scenarios when the low tide bite might be the best bite for you. The fish will take the bait and you can gently lean back and set the hooks. Use bait for more bream, whiting, flathead and during late winter and spring you may be rewarded with a tailor. To enjoy the sort of success that experienced whiting anglers achieve, you need to understand the fish and adapt to the location and conditions. 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